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		<description><![CDATA[I was recently looking at some home movies and photos from 2005 and 2006 and it is interesting that K walks with his heels down in, what appears to me, a normal heel-toe gait.  I had completely forgotten this fact.  His toe walking has become so deeply ingrained in my images of him [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently looking at some home movies and photos from 2005 and 2006 and it is interesting that K walks with his heels down in, what appears to me, a normal heel-toe gait.  I had completely forgotten this fact.  His toe walking has become so deeply ingrained in my images of him and who/how he his that I had become convinced that he had always walked this way.  I need to look back at more footage and try to see when we can start to see the change and see if we can corroborate that time with anything else that happened.  These images of him standing and walking flat footed is in fairly striking contrast to how he walks today perpetually up on his tip toes, with the right foot being much more pronounced.  <span id="more-42"></span>When trying to walk in a normal heel-toe gait (we ask him to try from time to time) he spreads his legs and turns his toes outward and will walk for a few steps, usually less than 10.</p>
<p>For historical reference and to be sure that I have my facts correct, as I have just demonstrated that they can be skewed by my poor memory, I will attempt to start at the beginning and move towards the present.</p>
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<li>As previously mentioned K was able to use a normal mode of walking in a heel-toe fashion when he initially began to walk.  I am going to investigate further to try and find a more accurate date of transition.</li>
<li>We were told by some medical professionals that this is what kids with ASD do, and therefore it did not require any further investigation.  We weren&#8217;t happy with this answer and sought out other opinions about why this may be happening.</li>
<li>The pediatric orthopedist concluded that his Achilles tendons were just able to allow him to move his feet to the 90 degree position, and any further loss of flexion would likely need to be addressed with surgery.  What was unfortunate about this referral was the lack of alternatives or investigation about the why of K&#8217;s tight heel cords.  There was no discussion about whether this could be a neuromuscular condition, a purely neurological condition, or merely habituation.  It was this visit that prompted us to seek out other opinions and took us to his physiotherapist.</li>
<li>K sees a great physio.  We used to see her weekly and her insight and observations were very helpful.  Unfortunately, she could not form a good rapport with K and their sessions were never as productive as either she or we hoped they would be (I think this is a result of K being stubborn and that the sessions were hard for him to do and his acting out was a means of avoidance of physically challenging and uncomfortable &#8220;work&#8221;).</li>
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<p>She had numerous observations we thought relevant and I am going to review her notes and update the pertinent information here.</p>
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<li>We have been VERY fortunate that K has had the opportunity to see some great occupational therapists.  There is one however that is a fabulous <a href="http://www.labyrinthjourneys.com/" target="_blank">occupational therapist</a>, and it is safe to say that she really &#8220;gets him&#8221; and has great insight and suggestions for helping with some of K&#8217;s sensory issues. Kim thought that some of the issue was K&#8217;s inability to process sensory information correctly and in a timely manner (the book <a href="http://www.out-of-sync-child.com/" target="_blank">The out of sync child</a> is really good at discussing sensory issues).  We have done a fair bit of work in this area and have made progress but K still walks on his toes.  To be fair it is very unlikely that the relatively short time K has been receiving OT would be sufficient to have a much larger impact and we have seen quite significant gains in sensory issues in other areas of his personality.</li>
<li>At a recent visit to another physio she remarked on the differential level of muscular development on his right side versus his left in the calf area.  His right is the one he will preferentially get &#8220;as high up on&#8221; as he can.</li>
<li>Attempts to manipulate his right ankle to have his foot at right angles to his tibia always meet with him resisting, even when he is ASLEEP!</li>
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<p>My research on toe-walking has lead to many places and the best description I can find that I think relates to K is as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>Tiptoe-walking is diagnosed as idiopathic (habitual) if no signs of neurological, orthopaedic, or psychiatric disease are detected. The diagnosis is one of exclusion&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>All the information we have to date; an MRI, 2 neurologists, physiotherapy, occupational therapy, pediatric orthopedist, orthotist have not pointed to a cause of K&#8217;s toe-walking.  Therefore, by exclusion, I am assuming that K has ITW as we have not had anyone provide us with any other cause/diagnosis.  In early June he will be seeing a doctor at a neuromuscular clinic.  She is a rehabilitation specialist, and we are hoping she may be able to shed some more light on the issue of K&#8217;s toe-walking.  My assumption may be, in strict medical terms, incorrect as he does not meet all the criteria for ITW on the basis of his ASD, however we have not heard or been given a better reason other than his ASD which I don&#8217;t feel is an adequate response but it may be the best/only response we ultimately get.</p>
<p>In my research on K&#8217;s toe-walking I have come across some useful resources that I will list here so that I can find them again, and share on the off chance someone else may find the information useful.  I am going to fill in some details here as they pertain to K and hopefully this can act as a reminder to me of where we are and what information/characteristics we already have.</p>
<p>Some links I found useful:</p>
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">Toe Walking and Language Development &#8212; Accardo et al. 31 (3): 158 &#8212; Clinical Pediatrics</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://cpj.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/31/3/158">http://cpj.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/31/3/158</a></div>
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<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> Toe walking and language delay appear to be linked<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">Center for the Study of Autism</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://www.autism.org/interview/kaplan.html">http://www.autism.org/interview/kaplan.html</a></div>
<div class="PubNoteContentArea"><a href="http://www.autism.org/interview/kaplan.html">http://www.autism.org/interview/kaplan.html</a></p>
<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> Visual deficits that lead to toe-walking in ASD kids<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">eMedicine &#8211; Toe Walking : Article by Edwards P Schwentker</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://www.emedicine.com/orthoped/topic451.htm">http://www.emedicine.com/orthoped/topic451.htm</a></div>
<div class="PubNoteContentArea"><a href="http://www.emedicine.com/orthoped/topic451.htm">http://www.emedicine.com/orthoped/topic451.htm</a></p>
<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> Good description and information about toe walking<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">Effect of persistent toe walking on ankle equinus&#8230;.[J Am Podiatr Med Assoc. 1997] &#8211; PubMed Result</span></p>
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<div class="PubNoteContentArea"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9009544?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=5&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9009544?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=5&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></p>
<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> toe walking and development of short achilles tendon<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">Serial casting in the treatment of idiopathic toe-&#8230;[Acta Orthop Belg. 2006] &#8211; PubMed Result</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17260610?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17260610?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></div>
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<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> Casting produced good outcomes<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">Idiopathic Toe Walking: A Kinematic and Kinetic Pr&#8230;[J Pediatr Orthop. 2008 April/May] &#8211; PubMed</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18362803?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18362803?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></div>
<div class="PubNoteContentArea"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18362803?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18362803?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></p>
<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> gait analysis for diagnosis of ITW vs CP<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">Simplified approach to idiopathic toe-walking. [J Pediatr Orthop. 2001 Nov-Dec] &#8211; PubMed Result</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11675556?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11675556?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></div>
<div class="PubNoteContentArea"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11675556?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11675556?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></p>
<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> Surgical procedure outcomes<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">Blackwell Synergy &#8211; Acta Paediatrica, Volume 93 Issue 2 Page 196-199, February 2004 (Article</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1651-2227.2004.tb02661.x">http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1651-2227.2004.tb02661.x</a></div>
<div class="PubNoteContentArea"><a href="http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1651-2227.2004.tb02661.x">http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1651-2227.2004.tb02661.x</a></p>
<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> non-surgical treatment effects don&#8217;t last<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">[Idiopathic toe walker child. Diagnosis and sponta...[Ann Readapt Med Phys. 2001] &#8211; PubMed Result</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11587675?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11587675?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></div>
<div class="PubNoteContentArea"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11587675?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11587675?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></p>
<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> degree of dorsiflexion can be indicator of treatment needed for good outcome.<br />
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<div class="PubNoteAttributes"><span class="AttributeTitle">Idiopathic toe walking: a comparison of treatment &#8230;[J Pediatr Orthop. 1998 May-Jun] &#8211; PubMed</span></p>
<p><a class="AttributeUrl" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9600550?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9600550?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></div>
<div class="PubNoteContentArea"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9600550?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9600550?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed</a></p>
<blockquote class="gn_c"><p><span> Comparison of outcomes</span></p></blockquote>
<p>I have included this information on our Google notebook page that can be found <a href="http://www.google.com/notebook/public/12294557901165949691/BDSD6IgoQ5_fVmJ8j" target="_blank">here</a>.</div>
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<p>My random thoughts as I work through this post:</p>
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<li>K initially walked in a normal fashion.</li>
<li>He originally moved in a very rigid fashion from the waist down. His legs were virtually locked and would move as a single unit with very little bending at the knee.</li>
<li>His seizure focus is on the right and therefore not affecting his right side motor skills directly</li>
<li>In retrospect as I write this I have seen a reduction in his flexibility of alternating feet when he goes up or down stairs.  He will now exclusively lead with his left foot and therefore his left leg does most of the work lifting his body up the stairs</li>
<li>Different shoes have differing impact on his gait.  It can be hard to tell how his feet are positioned inside some shoes (eg. rubber boots give the appearance of flat feet but he can be on his toes inside them).</li>
<li>Most shoes seem to improve his stability</li>
<li>Kim (OT) thinks that something rigid like skates or ski boots might help him become more &#8220;aware&#8221; of his feet and help the situation.</li>
<li>He was unable to tolerate skiing.  This may have been due to the physical discomfort of the boots.</li>
<li>If we try to get him to stand still with his feet flat he will turn his toes out and stick his bum out and lean forward, likely due to the inability to achieve a 90 degree angle with his right ankle and we are beginning to think that his hamstrings are overly tight further adding to the issue.</li>
<li>When he goes to the IR sauna he will walk with flat feet afterwards.  This has been noted on more than one occasion.</li>
<li>He resists flexion of his ankles, especially the right one, even when sleeping.</li>
<li>Get Tracy to review my information and fill in the blanks from my shoddy memory.</li>
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<p>I would love to hear other people&#8217;s experiences, comments in this area.  As we are seeing a specialist early next month I would like to be able to ask good questions and explore our options for treatments.</p>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Thursdays I have the pleasure of taking the kids to school.  Though it can be frustrating, as any parent with young kids will attest (ASD or no ASD), to get the 2 of them out of the house so that we are not late, it gives me a very limited glimpse into what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Thursdays I have the pleasure of taking the kids to school.  Though it can be frustrating, as any parent with young kids will attest (ASD or no ASD), to get the 2 of them out of the house so that we are not late, it gives me a very limited glimpse into what it is like for Tracy and my mom (who is our primary source of childcare when we are at work) on a daily basis.  I really do enjoy it, when my compulsion for punctuality does not get in the way because it gives me the chance to see the two of them in a different environment away from the house. <span id="more-30"></span> I also get to talk with people I don&#8217;t always get the opportunity to have a lot of direct contact with, both at K&#8217;s pre-school and at his sister&#8217;s school. This way I get to feel that I am still directly involved in what is going on instead of always having the information relayed to me secondhand. It also helps me feel that I am contributing to the &#8220;family&#8221;cause as well, and not always relying on others to take care of the day to day business of the household.</p>
<p>So it was this past Thursday the kids and I were in the car heading off to school when I had the overwhelming sensation of having forgotten something.  A quick inventory; 2 kids, lunches, backpacks, communication book it was all here and we were early too, something was just not right.  It was not until lunch time when I received a call from Tracy that it came to me in a rush, I had forgotten to give K his anti-seizure medication!  We had started <a href="http://www.asdinfo.org/?p=14" target="_blank">documenting our experience</a> with using Tegretol to control K&#8217;s absence seizures and how it was affecting him, his school, and his home life.  Suffice it to say, after what transpired I don&#8217;t think we need to have any discussion about whether we continue to use the medication or not.</p>
<p>Miss M. and Miss C. from his pre-school are so incredibly tuned into K that when Tracy came to pick him up they asked if we had changed anything or if anything new was happening with his treatment.  He not only did not appear to be himself but they witnessed 3 minor episodes in the short 3 hours that he attends.  Since we got his dosage stabilized and have been giving it to him routinely, except for this minor transgression, he has not been having any seizure activity that we or his pre-school have noticed and in my opinion has really been having a developmental spurt.</p>
<p>I feel that since his dosage has stabilized that he has really been improving. He is much more interactive with us and his sister as well as more communicative.  We are really beginning to see his personality come shining through and though I was never really sure that we were seeing a lot of seizures the medication has definitely been helping.  The recent flourish in K has very likely been attributable to the medication, and I think I confirmed this with my unintentional, yet very informative, experiment.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a listing on the US National institute of Health website about currently recruiting studies that focus on different aspects of autism.  I only scanned the list briefly but found many topics of interest as they directly relate to information I have read previously or, more importantly, they relate to some of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a listing on the <a href="http://clinicaltrials.gov/search/open/condition=%2522Autistic%2bDisorder%2522">US National institute of Health</a> website about currently recruiting studies that focus on different aspects of autism.  I only scanned the list briefly but found many topics of interest as they directly relate to information I have read previously or, more importantly, they relate to some of the interventions we are trying with K.</p>
<p>Many involve investigating the usefulness of drug therapies, but interspersed are investigations that, if performed correctly, will address much of the anecdotal evidence that is related time and again in parental testimonials.  <span id="more-26"></span>Some have been through scientific investigation before, but it is good to see them being revisited, like the impact of GFCF diets.  We have always had the opinion that this has had the single biggest impact on K and his success.</p>
<p>That, I know, is a fairly significant statement and to have my intent fully understood needs to be considered in a broader context.  I think after my above statement it is also important to mention that this is in no way meant to detract from all the hard work that K has done with his exceptional team of therapy providers.  I in no way mean to take away from, or minimize all that they have done for him. They have been instrumental in his progress and we would be lost without them and K would undoubtedly not be thriving without their unwavering commitment to him.</p>
<p>The salient point I feel, and I will not comment for Tracy, is that had we not removed gluten and dairy from K&#8217;s diet he would not have been able to get as much out of all his therapy sessions.  The GFCF diet has primed him for the success that he has been experiencing and allowed him to maximize all his interventions and, in the process, better tap into his potential.  In reality, I realize there is no way to know this for sure and this is just our impression, but it is not founded on whim but on our experience with K before and after modifying his diet.</p>
<p>This last point, I think, is key and is all too often dismissed by those who think the only useful, or factual, information is that which is found in scientific studies.  Scientific research is very important and I am not trying to say otherwise (I have an undergraduate degree in the biological sciences so skepticism, research, and the scientific method are all things I subscribe to) but personal anecdotal evidence should not be discredited based on its lack of &#8220;hard&#8221; data.  Research deals in statistical analysis and just because something is not found to be significant in the statistical sense does not directly translate into a lack of significance in the real world sense.  There will always be those that are outliers and for these <em>people</em>, the results can be dramatic. My emphasis is meant as a reminder that the numbers represent people and that very pertinent fact should not be forgotten.  If a given treatment can have beneficial results for some, even if that number is not statistically significant, that point should be mentioned and not minimized.  What may be statistically insignificant for many can be profoundly significant for a few, and then there are the gradations between the extremes that can also go overlooked.  As I have mentioned before in other posts, it is important to keep your options, and your minds, open when it comes to looking for successful ways to help your autistic child.</p>
<p>Shortly after moving him to the GFCF diet we noticed a <em>significant</em> change in his behaviour and the appearance of previously absent behaviours as well as a more interactive, &#8220;present&#8221; child who appeared to be &#8220;with us&#8221; more than in the past.  I will not delve into the theories behind why the GFCF diet works as there is copious material to be found with very simple research but it truly was as if a &#8220;fog&#8221; had been lifted from K&#8217;s mental processes and awareness.  I think that it was this new found clear-headedness that allowed him to absorb and process what was going on in his intervention sessions.  His therapists did not have to work as hard to engage him, though this can still be problematic at times just like with any typical child, and they could focus on learning and not on trying to get his attention and therefore the sessions were, overall, more productive.</p>
<p>One other point that I would like to make is that in pursuing any dietary interventions it is fundamentally important to ensure your child is receiving adequate nutrition.  Shortly after starting K&#8217;s GFCF diet we kept a very detailed log of everything he consumed in a day for 2 weeks.  We then met with a dietician and discussed his food journal and his diet and made sure that he was receiving adequate nutrition.  I cannot stress this enough as it is critical to ensure you are not replacing one problem with another, potentially more harmful, one.</p>
<p>We have some research information in  <a href="http://bowdiges.4shared.com"></a><a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org" target="_blank">our documents repository</a>  that has looked at the &#8220;outcomes&#8221; of dietary modification as an intervention in autism and many are contrary to my point but they are a good source of information and provide a counterpoint to my personal perspective.  As always, comments are welcome.</p>
<p>Some links to our repository that contain information on GFCF diet:<br />
<a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org/files/Review_GFCF_Diet_in_ASD.pdf" target="_blank"> Review of GFCF diet in Autism </a><br />
<a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org/files/Review_of_GFCF_diet_in_ASD.pdf" target="_blank"> Another review of GFCF diet in Autism </a><br />
<a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org/files/Diet_and_child_behaviour_problems-_fact_or_fiction.pdf" target="_blank"> Diet and child behaviour problems </a><br />
<a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org/files/Dietician's_insights_in_ASD_treatment.pdf" target="_blank"> Registered dietician&#8217;s insights on dietary treatments in autism </a><br />
<a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org/files/Intestinal_pathophysiology_in_Autism.pdf" target="_blank"> Intestinal pathophysiology in autism</a></p>
<p>Here is some information I have shared from our google reader page:<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/reader/shared/user/02232235543052932877/label/diet">GFCF diet on google reader </a><br />
<a href="http://www.boulderweekly.com/?page_id=15432&amp;id_sub=15432&amp;pagenum=22"> Another media article </a></p>
<p>I also found some very useful discussion in the <a href="http://www.autismvox.com/the-autism-diet/"> comments section </a> of a post on another blog I read.  It makes some other very good points regarding diet and children&#8217;s behaviour that are very relevant, but I have been verbose enough already.  Therefore this should not be considered merely in the context of autism but really in the broader scope of general health.</p>
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		<title>Anti-seizure Medication</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have posted before about K&#8217;s seizures and what we have been through to rule out some of the potential causes of this aberrant brain activity. So we recently started K&#8217;s anti-seizure medication, Tegretol, to see if they can help alleviate his absence seizures as they have been continuing to occur despite our trying to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have <a href="http://www.asdinfo.org/?p=7" target="_blank">posted</a> before about K&#8217;s seizures and what we have <a href="http://www.asdinfo.org/?p=6" target="_blank">been through</a> to rule out some of the potential causes of this aberrant brain activity. So we recently started K&#8217;s anti-seizure medication, Tegretol, to see if they can help alleviate his <a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000696.htm">absence seizures</a> as they have been continuing to occur despite our trying to<a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org/files/Epilepsy,_Seizures,_and_Taurine-_Abstract.pdf" target="_blank"> manage them</a> with <a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org/files/Seizures_and_B12_deficiency.pdf" target="_blank">more natural</a> methods . I think the frequency of occurrence is not that great but after talking with K&#8217;s neurologist, and getting excellent feedback from K&#8217;s preschool about how frequently they see his episodes, we decided that it was a win-win situation for trying the medication. <span id="more-14"></span>This way we can see if his seizures are limiting his performance, assuming that this medication is successful in managing them, and if we do not see a significant improvement then we can stop the medication and look for any negative changes resulting from stopping treatment.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Thursday Jan. 17th, 2008</strong></span> We started his medication at the initial starting dose of 50mg once daily. It has only been a few days thus far and the only side effects to note are some tiredness shortly after administering him his dose, though I think we may have ameliorated this by giving K his B12 nasal spray shortly after and this seems to keep him alert and able to focus during his intervention sessions, and some extra &#8220;clingyness&#8221;.  Tracy and I think this may be the result of just needing some extra re-assurance if the drugs are making him feel somewhat strange mentally. We are hoping that this will pass. He does seem to have to work somewhat harder with his speech as he seems to elongate some of his words while talking. The only other peculiarity we have seen is some squinting or like K is trying consciously to blink and therefore it stands out more than normal blinking.It is unfortunate that being 4, and on the spectrum, it can be hard to tell people how things make you feel as many of those ideas are somewhat abstract and require higher levels of communication.</p>
<p>We are going to start gradually increasing his dose so I will update this post as we progress and hopefully I can capture what is going on, any side-effects, and how K is reacting.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Jan 22nd, 2008</strong></span> and we have increased K to the next dosage level. He is now receiving 5omg twice daily. Again we noticed some additional tiredness and the &#8220;blinkiness&#8221; continues but not as pronounced. Except for an episode on the day we started treatment we have not witnessed or heard from his preschool that he has been having anymore seizures.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Jan 25th, 2008</strong></span> and we had a meeting with K&#8217;s neurologist today. We talked about alot of things and how to proceed, much of the conversation revolved around her retiring and how we proceed from this point on. K seems to be having a much more difficult time controlling himself and many very simple things seem to be more than he can stand and result in tears, hopefully this will diminish. One of our topics of conversation was if his behaviour is being negatively affected and his performance in other areas is not showing significant improvement then perhaps the medication is not worth the additional stress on everyone, time will tell.  Of note is the fact that he seems to be more echolalic lately, this has always been one of his &#8220;stims&#8221;, but it seems to be worse now as he continues to recite parts of his most recently favourite shows.  This too may be a product of being more tired than normal and an attempt to keep himself busy and occupied instead of succumbing to being tired; we have seen this before as well, but hopefully it too will be short lived.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Jan 28th, 2008</strong></span> K is now taking 50mg 3 times a day (morning, noon, and before bed) to manage his seizure activity during the waking hours and at this point it is not looking good. We have committed to ourselves, the neurologist, and K that we will try for 1 month to give us a good indication of how it will manage his seizures and impact his behaviour. If the last couple of days is any indication we may be in for a long 30 days! K seems to be even more out of sorts, everything that does not go his way is a MAJOR ordeal resulting in tears and he seems to very much just want to watch tv. We are not sure if this is just a result of the medication making him tired, which we know it does from what we saw yesterday (K almost fell asleep in his sensory swing early in the afternoon, which never happens normally, and he asked to go to bed early and fell asleep almost instantly) or if it is impacting his behaviour such that it is very hard for him to cope. The other change of note is the fact that unless he is watching tv he has a difficult time being still (we are limiting his B12 nasal spray because that can exacerbate his &#8220;hyper&#8221; activity level). He has always been busy, but not to the point of being hyper or manic, but lately he even seems to have a difficult time sitting in his &#8220;happy spot&#8221; at the dinner table. Again, we are not sure if this is another effect of the medication or if it is from it causing him to feel tired and the perpetual motion is how he stays awake. The latter would be very in keeping with what we know of our kids. K&#8217;s big sister does the same thing still, she busies herself with anything and everything to keep from succumbing to sleep. The outcome of which is usually very similar to what we are seeing with K; the excessive activity and the over-emotional behaviour. Hopefully as the dosage normalizes and he becomes accustomed to the medication these new personality traits will diminish to the point of being absent.</p>
<p>The only other thing of note in this area would be the change in his homeopathic medicine at the same time as the introduction of the anti-seizure meds. We are going to contact his naturopath to see if this is likely and adjust his remedies accordingly to help manage the behaviours. We did see similar behaviour in the past with a change in his homeopathic remedies so that may be a contributing factor.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Jan 31, 2008</span></strong> K seems to be tolerating the medication much better.  He is on 50mg three times a day and seems to be adjusting to its influences on him.  The bad behaviour has decreased dramatically and he is almost back to his normal self.  He does still seem to be tired and this has an impact on his mood and behaviour but usually just in ways that I have described above in that he becomes busier than usual and if we are especially lucky he does it all with a mischievious look in his eyes.  That remark should not be viewed as fascetious but one of happiness as it shows he is doing things in a calculating way that he has deduced will elicit some response, in other words it would appear that he using some social context for his behaviour as this is a type of interaction with his mom and I.  Atleast that is what I try to remind myself when I tell him not to keep doing certain things that he knows full well he is not supposed to do.</p>
<p>His preschool is so great at monitoring his behaviour and watching for any signs of his seizures and to date we have been episode free since shortly after starting the medication and we have not noticed anything here at home.  The &#8220;blinkiness&#8221; was noted on the 29th but not today so that may be a transient effect or perhaps it is a result of some other aspect of the medication.  He seems to be sleeping better as well (me touching wood) and has not been waking in the night as he sometimes does, especially this time of year, and has been very easy to get to sleep at night.  Perhaps we should consider an adjustment to his bed time to ensure that he is getting enough sleep and is not becoming over-tired as that usually leads to episodes of night terrors.  Sleep is going to be the subject of another post as I try to remember and document our 4 very  difficult months last year when K did not sleep well at all and some of our strategies for helping improve the situation as well as what we experienced.  I found an <a href="http://autism.about.com/b/2008/01/25/sleep-issues-and-autism-resources-and-information.htm">article </a>recently that has some resources in this area and we have some information in the documents section on the <a href="http://documents.asdinfo.org" target="_blank">main page</a>, as well that have information on sleep issues in autistic kids, if you can&#8217;t find what you are looking for, try the contact us link and we would be happy to direct you to the information we have.</p>
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